Ouarzazate beta

Malibu350 · Post by **Malibu350** » Sun May 02, 2004 3:58 pm

No need to change a thing mum, I just wanted to make it clear that if in fact you did make any changes to help the lag problem that it was texture related not vertex. I run on a fairly weak system and the fr's are very tolerable imo.

btw, congratz on the tourney win mum :o)

OLD_mumhra · Post by **OLD_mumhra** » Mon May 03, 2004 8:43 am

thnx Mal, i still have to make a new bitmap image and a readme. Then i think it will be ready. Still waiting for Kdawg tho, maybe he'll find something...

Kdawg · Post by **Kdawg** » Mon May 03, 2004 11:53 am

Go and release it if you want, I haven't been able to get around to it, but I'm sure its fine.

OLD_mumhra · Post by **OLD_mumhra** » Tue May 04, 2004 1:40 pm

Just uploaded it. Thnx everybody who helped me out here [;)]

Post by **Phineus** » Tue May 04, 2004 2:22 pm

Hey mum, please check your download. There is something extremely wrong with the terrain. It looks like you randomized the terrain, or something. Let me know and I'll delete this for a reupload. I hope you have an old beta copy still available so the restore will be easy.

OLD_mumhra · Post by **OLD_mumhra** » Tue May 04, 2004 2:31 pm

delete it asap pls, i will take a look at it. Still have the txx file so it won't be a problem i guess...

edit... txx file is all wrong too...... i'm toast here. Have no idea what might have happened.... I just changed the bitmap image and uploaded it to mtmg. Now it seems all the altitudes are changed [uhoh] [uhoh] [uhoh]

Post by **Phineus** » Tue May 04, 2004 2:44 pm

Just a note. I saved the last beta and the new messed up one. If you have any trouble, I hope to be able to fix it without too much hassle. Let us know how you make out.

OLD_mumhra · Post by **OLD_mumhra** » Tue May 04, 2004 2:59 pm

I found the last beta myself. Still was on my webspace. The only thing is that that one still has the old bitmap image.
But in order to put a new bitmap image in, i need the txx file, which i can't use no longer because it looks the same as the podfile i uploaded.

Now i can turn that beta pod back into a txx file. Malibu explained me about a year ago how to do that in traxx forum viewtopic.php?t=1221) . But you also said this : "Most models will either be sunk into or floating above the terrain and will need to be reset."
If there is no other way i must do it like that, but it's gonna cost me a few days i guess.

Malibu350 · Post by **Malibu350** » Tue May 04, 2004 3:19 pm

mum, if you have podview just use it to open the last good beta you have and find/extract the raw file shown below, extract that then open it up with txraw and paste it back into traxx.. that will restore the terrain but you'll probably need to reset the height on all the models

podview 22k

txraw 9k

ps, i am not phin

OLD_mumhra · Post by **OLD_mumhra** » Tue May 04, 2004 3:23 pm

lol, oops, sorry, just saw my mistake lol

OLD_mumhra · Post by **OLD_mumhra** » Tue May 04, 2004 3:54 pm

ok, i got it back to a txx file, and it looks pretty good.
After adding backdrop and music traxx gave no more errors, so i could drive on it.

Now i have 3 little problems
1. some models are a bit sunk. No biggy
2. the unvisible ramp at start straight seems to be gone. I think i'll just have to make a new one and that should be it
3. when i drive downhill under those covered bridges i bump into something. I can't see anything in traxx tho. I've pushed to wire frame button so i could see things more clearly, but traxx shows nothing there. Now that could be a bigger problem.
I'll continue tomorrow if i can find the time. Calling it a night for now...

Malibu350 · Post by **Malibu350** » Tue May 04, 2004 4:08 pm

What I did when this happened on rock ridge I just followed the road in traxx selecting each model one by one with the mouse, If it were a tree or something where location was not that critical I just dragged it a little with the mouse which allowed traxx to snap the model back to the proper height. If it were a model where location/position was important like a bridge or fence section I selected it with the mouse being carefull not to move it then hit 's' then 'x' to reset the height without disturbing it's position.

I hope that helps (and isn't way too obvious)

Post by **Phineus** » Tue May 04, 2004 5:02 pm

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Method one

Open traxx
View pod file with beta version
copy terrain as bitmap
close beta version
open txx of new one that's messed up
paste terrain as bitmap
save txx
write pod file
zip it up
release
general fanfare

Method two

Extract all files of beta version
Extract all files of new one that's messed up
Drag and drop all folders into podtool
save new pod
zip it up
release
general fanfare

Method three

Download this fixed version : <a href="http://mtm2.com/~tracks/beta/Ouarzazate.zip">Ouarzazate.zip</a>
try it out
zip it up
release
general fanfare

I don't think you have to clone anything

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I know I wouldn't.

Malibu350 · Post by **Malibu350** » Tue May 04, 2004 5:18 pm

> Method three
> I don't think you have to clone anything

It was just the terrain bitmap that needed updating in this case was my thinking.

Post by **Phineus** » Tue May 04, 2004 5:29 pm

Having re-read your <a href="http://forum.mtm2.com/viewtopic.php?p=17204#17204">post</a> again, I think the last significant sentence threw me. You won't need to reset models unless the terrain had changed. I assume it didn't.

> ps, i am not phin

Not yet, you're not. Just wait 'til I release your next track lol

OLD_mumhra · Post by **OLD_mumhra** » Wed May 05, 2004 12:56 pm

Man, u guys are awesome.
I dunnow how you've done it Phin, but i'm very thankfull.
I don't understand what went wrong, and i sure as hell don't know how you fixed it. The thing i don't understand is that even the .txx file is unuseable.
Just send the bill to Belgium, i'll make sure u get payed [;)]

Now i think i've forgotten one thing on that track. And after what you've done it should be there. A hughe MTMG sign....
However i can't place that in, because i just don't have the txx file no more (the unuseable yes, but that one won't help me at all).

I tried the track this time before i decided to upload it. And thank god, it works... So i'm going to up it now.
[(-:] [(-:] [(-:]

SLO_Scrooch · Post by **SLO_Scrooch** » Wed May 05, 2004 2:27 pm

w00000 [;)]

Bah, I'm such an useless poster lol

Post by **Phineus** » Wed May 05, 2004 4:44 pm

mum, the terrain is controlled by a file. I just switched the good file from the beta over the bad file from the wonky final track. That's all there was to it. As for your txx, it's still good but needs to have the terrain file switched... like Mal or I have explained above. But no matter now that you're happy with what you have. If you need it fixed for some reason, make a copy of it and play around with the notes above and/or send it to me and I can 'probably fix it'. As for what happened, you some how managed to hit this

<img src="http://cownap.com/~mtmg/traxx/images/random01.gif">

I don't know who what where when how or why but that's what happened. For future reference, don't do it again after your track is finished, lol.

LOL @ Scrooch

OLD_mumhra · Post by **OLD_mumhra** » Sat May 08, 2004 6:59 am

idd Phin, that must've happened.

I was reading up in the 'hidden airbase' thread and read about positioning of the sun. I went there to look at what was possible and must've accidently hit the random terrain button